It's no big secret that one of the things political Islam rails against the west for is what they consider to be its harram banking system based on debt/usury. Abu Hamza even said on a Newsnight one night (even Jeremy didn't really pick up on it at the time from memory) that attacks then being carried out against French banks were legitimate.

So, might I suggest that one way, if you really want to, to get back Sir Fred's pension and all those other bonuses would be to incarcerate them (and especially the politicians that egged them on in the "age of irresponsibility" as Brown christened his Chancellorship a few weeks ago) in Belmarsh and use recent suitable anti-terror laws to confiscate their assets.

After all, between them they have contrived to do more harm to our way of life (and for several decades to come even after ground zero is cleared up) than the Al Q'aeda big-wigs could probably have dreamed of.

We could even recycle GTMO for their exclusive pleasure - after all, it seems many of them like Caribbean hide-aways!

Of course, it's at least half-in-jest - but when we think of the damage that cock-up rather than conspiracy has wreaked on the global financial system and the billions so dependent on it, how much worse can it be? I remember Bjorn Lomberg once saying that providing a clean local water source for everyone on the planet currently without would have cost less than what we have put in to bail out these fuckers.

I'll bet it would change the entire popular view of "waterboarding" if it were Richard Fuld or today's favourite whipping boy Fred Goodwin undergoing it! Maybe "retired" bankers could even be the next group to get ID cards.

Not literally of course - I am irreversibly against the death penalty - but today the Daily Mail - I was pointed to the story by another blog; I would never voluntarily read it - reopens the story about the UK cover up of official knowledge and condoning of torture in US detention:

British collusion in U.S. torture of suspected terrorists was covered up after extensive top-level talks between the two governments, it can be revealed. Foreign Office officials spent three months working with their American counterparts to hush up the allegations made by Binyam Mohamed, it was claimed. Mohamed, a British resident, has spent six years in U.S. custody - including a spell in the notorious Guantanamo Bay. [From Torture case 'cover up': Foreign Office officials 'spent months colluding with U.S. to hush up claims' | Mail Online]

So, which should be hung out to dry in the international criminal court - Tony Blair for colluding in the first place with what he must have known (after all even I saw the episodes of torture in "24"!) was going on or David Milliband for his desperate attempts to cover up our knowledge and forethought in torture.

Come on chaps. We are signatories to the treaty on torture. If our judges won't indict Bliar and Millibland, perhaps we can persuade Spain's.